r/Steam 27d ago

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u/GuyMansworth 27d ago

Sony is at a crossroads right now where they could remove the PSN requirement and watch their reviews go back to positive, or double down on it to gather your information and fuck over the playerbase.

You all fucking know what they'll choose and it won't be the consumers. Yet people are still defending this trillion dollar company.

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u/GuessImScrewed 27d ago

I don't think the reviews will get changed back even if Sony does go back on this

People are faster to respond with anger than they are with forgiveness.

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u/MakeUpAnything 27d ago

This. I’ve seen plenty of comments stating that they’d be fine leaving their negative review as a price for fucking with the community. 

Arrowhead is probably going to suffer quite a bit for Sony’s missteps. 

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u/TheGoldenMonkey 27d ago

I think this will be the unfortunate, grim reality. Capital G gamers are mad about this and, in their anger, are lashing out.

Whether Arrowhead survives is yet to be seen. Sony will continue to live on regardless. The game they love could die just so people can feel a little bit better. I'm aware one of the devs said to do this, but I can't help but feel like the monkey's paw is curling.

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u/MakeUpAnything 27d ago

I definitely feel the paw is curling. This is a lot of backlash for Sony trying to implement its own internal anti-cheat instead of relying on anything from Valve. I get that Arrowhead’s CEO signed off on the idea to disable this for a while, but it seems like good intentions that had awful unintended outcomes. 

Sony’s primarily at fault here. I hate seeing developers caught in the crossfire, especially given how hard it is to be a game dev in this age of constant layoffs. Arrowhead is just programming what they’re told to. 

Hoping Arrowhead isn’t destroyed by this. I really like this game and they seem to be pretty great devs who try hard to be transparent. 

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u/SweaterKittens 27d ago

Even if most people make an effort to change their score, there are a lot of people who will just have stopped playing altogether or have forgotten and moved on. Someone was pointing out in the Helldivers sub that they're never going to get back that incredibly 98% positive score they had, that's reserved for the absolute best games on the platform.

It's honestly tragic.

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u/thecrius 27d ago

As it should be. Even better would be if people stopped playing the game when this change goes in effect if Sony doesn't back the fuck off, but we'll see.

Thing is, this was a huge arrogant move from Sony because everyone on PC saw that the game was perfectly working without PSN account. Not only that but multiplayer relied on Steam network, not PSN network. They simply expected that we didn't notice something absurd like "this is now required for your own security".

Sony shot themselves in the foot, and it needs to be used as an example now not to try to push too hard onto their user base on PC at least. Other companies did the same thing in the past, Sony is not the first or the worst, it simply was stupid enough to do this blatantly.

It's just sad that a good software house is going to suffer for this.

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u/lt_dan_zsu 26d ago

Just as a follow to up, 13% of reviews in the past month were positive around 30 minutes after PlayStation announced they were backstepping on the decision, and as of right now, 61% are positive. In 24 hours, 55% of people who left a review in the past month have switched it to positive.

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u/GuessImScrewed 25d ago

A far cry from their esteemed 98% positive rating, but I'm glad at the very least their steam reviews are no longer mixed

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u/Princess_Of_Thieves 26d ago

People are faster to respond with anger than they are with forgiveness.

Ooh, there's a good quote for the future.

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u/Juzziee 27d ago

This comment aged poorly haha

Sony actually removed the PSN requirement

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u/oXI_ENIGMAZ_IXo 27d ago

watch their reviews go back positive

Like Xbox after backtracking on DRM on the Xbox One? Oh wait, gamers were still mad. They’ll always be mad about this

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u/EllenDuhgenerous 27d ago

I bet they’re just going to stop the idea of day one steam launches now. Because ego.

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u/BF2k5 27d ago

Maybe they aren't so stupid though. Helldivers could be THE franchise for them or they could be THAT publisher and studio. EA, Ubisoft and Activision would welcome them I'm sure.

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u/NAFEA_GAMER 27d ago

They did backdown, weird

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u/johanpringle 27d ago

They're not getting my data. Once the PSN thing goes unto affect, I'm out

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u/GuyMansworth 26d ago

it has been reversed.

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u/Drathix 25d ago

They reverted the change

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u/redditaccountwh 27d ago

Who is defending them?

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u/sfblue 27d ago

Someone I know on Discord told me that it was "completely undeserved backlash, at that point people are sheep who follow each other", and I almost said "If I'm a sheep then you're a bootlicker", and they don't even play Helldivers2

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u/Exciting_Fun858 27d ago

Lol trillion dollar company....

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u/RobotSpaceBear 27d ago edited 26d ago

16B (edit: 16Tr Yens. It's actually 100B USD)

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u/Uncreative4This 27d ago

Sony is 16T Yen.

They're 100B us dollar market cap (1$ = ~160 ¥)

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u/RobotSpaceBear 26d ago

Damn, my reading comprehension is lower than Helldiver's recent Steam ratings. Thanks for pointing it out.