r/anime • u/AutoLovepon • 14d ago
Yoru no Kurage wa Oyogenai • Jellyfish Can't Swim in the Night - Episode 7 discussion Episode
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u/AmusedDragon 14d ago
This show has managed to not have a single bad episode yet.
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u/squirrelhoodie https://anilist.co/user/stefandesu 13d ago
I've been loving every single one so far. It's also one of the few shows ever where I've decided to rewatch the previous episode on the day before the new one airs (I should do this for more shows though).
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u/kisaragihiu 14d ago
Consider how it looks from Mahiru's friends' perspective
- Episode 1: Mahiru randomly leaves to go after... someone... without elaboration
- This episode: Some random girl pulls up in a motorcycle, Mahiru is surprised but runs over to see her with zero elaboration, and then just... gets on the bike and leaves...
Mahiru is so preoccupied with Kano, I love it
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u/ali94127 14d ago
Her friends totally think they're dating.
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u/WiqidBritt 14d ago
With the way she was teasing Kano on the beach I think Mahiru thinks they're dating too, she just hasn't told Kano yet.
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u/wyggles 14d ago
gets on the bike and leaves...
I was wondering about that when it happened. I said out loud "Did she just abandon her friends out of nowhere?"
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u/dinmammapizza 14d ago
She is not following the brocode right there
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u/wyggles 14d ago
Eh, if a baddie rolls up on a motorcycle looking for you I think it's acceptable to ditch your friends to go with them.
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u/BuckeyeBentley 14d ago
If one of my homies declined getting on that bike I'd be offended on principle. That's bro code.
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u/Aksudiigkr 14d ago
Since the texts weren’t translated I couldn’t tell - was Mahiru texting Kano right before Kano showed up? Or did Kano just see her social media post and knew where she was?
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u/kisaragihiu 13d ago edited 13d ago
It looks like Discord DM, but yeah, she was texting Kano. Even better, she was waiting for Kano's reply.
- timecode 18:45 Mahiru → Kano (In-universe 2024(*)/5/20 15:25)
- "I'm at Shibuya~"
- "Looks tasty, right?"
- <IMG_8021.jpg>
- [Kano starts riding towards Shibuya]
- timecode 18:57
- Mahiru is staring at the messages she sent
- Text input says "Send a message to @山ノ内花音" (@yamanouchikano); the way it's formatted and the way the ID supports Japanese is exactly like Discord
(*)
we know it's most likely 2024 because Kano's phone shows 5/20 as being a Monday, and of the years whose 5/20 is a Monday 2024 is the most likely optionwe also literally see the year at 18:57I don't know how Kano figured out where Mahiru was, but she might've just circled around Shibuya Station a bit.
(Also fuck Reddit for not having any sort of draft feature)
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u/squirrelhoodie https://anilist.co/user/stefandesu 13d ago
She texted Kano that she's in Shibuya with a picture of her drink, so I guess Kano recognized the store and was able to find her that way.
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u/chaostk 13d ago
Add to it that for the past 6 months or so since she met Kano, she likely ditched or didn't go out with her friends a few times, as the example from episode 5 where they went to met some famous person but Mahiru was totally focused on JELEE. Then she also started part-time work and going to the JELEE meetings, so she should overall be expending quite less time with them. They likely are suspicious.
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u/whodisguy32 14d ago
"It's just my social circle isn't diluted with superficial friendships"
Dude Kiui is fucking based. Goes against the norm, makes money streaming in hs, has a plan for her future, and is an omegataku.
No surprise Koharu took an interest in her.
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u/casualgamerTX55 13d ago edited 13d ago
The episode highlighted that despite Kiui's social anxiety, she has the maturity to make realistic and meaningful life goals and to take concrete steps to achieve them.
Now introducing Koharu and her immediate interest in Kiui is a bold move by Yorukura writers. Tbh she does come a bit fast and aggressive in getting close to Kiui. But I think she means well. After all, Kiui is mature enough to have friends older than her.
Notwithstanding the comedic fan service banter about oppai, her openness about her enhancements is commendable.
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u/danlong87 14d ago
Kano was no match to Yoru at all when it comes to flirting lmao, the beach date at the end was practically a confession for both, we now just left with them officially acknowledging it, do not put an iceberg in front of this ship mr director
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u/IXajll https://myanimelist.net/profile/ixajii 14d ago
The fact that they we got this date scene at episode 7 makes me optimistic that at least something more will happen between two, ideally them ending up together as a couple. We got 5 episodes left, more than enough time to give them the few final pushes.
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u/mekerpan 14d ago
Such an adorable ending* to a thoroughly charming episode. (* except for the tiny epilogue).
Mahiru (known as Yoru) really came about to a love confession as possible without stating it outright. And Kano seemed to very much appreciate what she heard.
I wonder if I would do any better than Kano at driving across that beam....
Kiwi has an apparent "suitor" -- but I am pretty sure she has no real interest in a "relationship" at this point (and I think she likes her other 3 friends more).
I wonder what Mahjiru's school friends though about her hopping on a mortorcycle behind a delinquent gyaru?
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u/divineshadow666 14d ago
except for the tiny epilogue
Honestly, as soon as Yoru got on, my first thought (and not even considering the legality of having a passenger so soon after getting her license) was "are you nuts, she could barely ride that thing a week ago?". I guess love makes you do crazy things.
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u/thestigREVENGE https://myanimelist.net/profile/thestigREVENGE 13d ago
I half expected them to get into an accident as the scene changed and I saw sirens.
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u/Abysswatcherbel 14d ago
We all know it will end with them wearing rings in a flash forwards and living together but nothing will be acknowledged, and then the producers will say they became business partners and are sharing an apartment to save money
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u/AnxiousSea02 14d ago
"Best we can do is a confession at the very end of episode 12"
I hope that's not the case but I've learnt to temper my expectations as much as possible
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u/IXajll https://myanimelist.net/profile/ixajii 14d ago
It’s possible yea, but I just restocked my copium stash so I’ll pretend I didn’t just read this lol.
Besides, the only recent example I can think of where it happened similarly like you described is G-Witch so it’s not like it happens every time like that…..yea,right….snorts another line
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u/x-7032-b-3 14d ago
Cheek kiss: done
Beach confession: done
At this rate we're gonna get those two having a nice romantic kiss at the final ep. Don't leave us hanging, Doga Kobo!
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 14d ago
Horimiya has shown that you can imply more than just a simple romantic kiss for characters that are dating...
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u/NintendoMasterNo1 https://myanimelist.net/profile/NintendoMaster1 14d ago
and after that they're gonna hold hands
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u/AnxiousSea02 14d ago
Teasing Master Mahiru-san
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u/Goodman4525 13d ago
Takahashi-san gets to be on the receiving end this time.
Hang on isn't this basically Chi then
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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy 14d ago
Mahiru was definitely taking the initiative here. She’s kept pestering Kano about the meaning of her actions, which could just be seen as Mahiru being a tease.
However, Mahiru’s words also seem to imply that she knows what’s up with Kano and has been looking for a genuine answer from her. In other words; she wants Kano to acknowledge her own feelings.
Something that’s most likely reflected in the ambiguous phrasing of Mahiru own words too:
“Maybe I’m actually the type who likes to reciprocate properly.”
Mahiru is maybe the type of girl that also got feelings for Kano. The explicit focus on Mahiru’s hands does point in this direction: she clenched her arms tighter around Kano on the bike, and pulled Kano along on the beach.
If this wasn’t all just bait, then I’m suspecting that Mahiru will be the one to have this ship set sail.
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u/cornonthekopp 14d ago
It would fit in if the reason for Kano leaving her idol group and/or hitting another idol had to do with her sexuality. I could see that being a pretty big source of repression, since she tends to backpedal every time she realizes she stepped over the line. Possibly out of fear of committing or acknowledging her feelings for Mahiru?
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u/ryujin199 14d ago
Yup. And could make her all the more oblivious to Mahiru's increasingly obvious romantic gestures.
Also something about the seemingly shy and reserved Mahiru being the actually more dominant (or at least proactive) one in their relationship speaks to me... especially when Kano typically takes on a brave, almost tomboyish persona.
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u/Prankishmanx21 https://myanimelist.net/profile/prankishmanx21 12d ago
Kind of reminds me of Yuu Koito. She wasn't so much shy and reserved like Mahiru as she was just mostly passive, but once she understood and knew what she wanted she went for it.
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u/CatsCry https://anilist.co/user/oneiro5 14d ago
The translation of Mahiru's line might be a bit misleading. She really just meant that she might be the type of person to return favors, as in she was very thankful for the things Kano did for her. It wasn't very ambiguous unless you REALLY want to overthink the line in Japanese lol
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u/maliwanag0712 https://myanimelist.net/profile/clear1109 14d ago
Imagine Mei's reaction when she sees the two flirting with each other HAHAHA
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u/Abysswatcherbel 14d ago
My favorite inside joke of a fandom this season, is the artists making fun of Mei
I am sorry, but it is funny
They are going to put her in the chair!
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u/AggravatingCustard84 14d ago edited 13d ago
Wdym by “They are going to put her in the chair?” Im really curious actually what that saying means, like the chair she was sitting on when yoru was drawing her? /serious
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u/TomatoVanadis 13d ago
"cuckchair" i.e. tied to chair and forced watch as your crush having sex with someone else
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u/n080dy123 14d ago
Whe they cut back to Yoru painting her after the scene where Koharu (almost?) flashes Kiui and Kano, I was thinking "Oh my god if she knew what was happenign right now she'd be absolutely freaking OUT."
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u/casualgamerTX55 13d ago
As of now I actually feel a bit sad for Mei.
Now, all the other three members of their artist group are bonding quite well, with two obviously becoming quite closer than friends as their spontaneous beach date suggests.
Mahiru consoling Mei not to worry about Kiui and Kano spending time together is kinda funny and sad at the same time.
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u/Hitman7128 https://anilist.co/user/Hitman7128 14d ago
I have a hunch that when we're at the final episode and we look back at the show, the beach date will be seen as a milestone from hindsight. There's a feeling in me that, there's a good reason as to why the director (or whoever) wanted Mahiru seeing a jellyfish in the wild for the first time (relating to the title of the anime) during this date. So that milestone could be symbolic of something.
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u/ryujin199 14d ago
They're really being unsubtle about about it, and I love it.
I still hope that they tie it back into Kano's previous idol drama and that her relationship with Mahiru helps her heal from those past wounds.
I'm gunning for a Magirevo ending, but I know better than to get my hopes up.
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u/BuckeyeBentley 14d ago
Oh man I had assumed Kano got into it with the one girl because other girl was acting a teacher's pet to her own mother and she got jealous.
But what if it was over some gay shit. Kano tried to kiss her and the other girl got indignant and they got in a fight. Or there never was a punch, but they were covering up the fact that they kicked Kano out for it but didn't want to say they were kicking her out because she gay. Mom chose the side of the other girl and protecting the business, real tragic.
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u/SunSeeker43 14d ago
The aquarium date is going to be upon us soon, i can feel it in my heart
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u/WhoiusBarrel 14d ago edited 14d ago
Kiui's motivation of being a teacher is an admirable one considering how her own teachers failed her so she wishes to be that one teacher who DID help.
Its cool hearing a character like Koharu openly talking about getting plastic surgery, you rarely hear that from someone in Anime.
Yoru also being so assertive, getting on the bike (and getting charged) and teasing Kano, oh how the turn tables.
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u/Labmit 14d ago
Everyone else is saying the other major stuff so I'll just say that I love that they got pulled over.
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u/Castawaye https://anilist.co/user/DekorationXanNex 14d ago
The whole time I was wondering, "Hey isn't that like not allowed??" In other shows they put emphasis on two people riding a regular bike being not allowed so I was like, damn they really just upped the stakes here and let them go, but then they got caught.
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u/WhoiusBarrel 14d ago
Yoru was just asserting dominance in front of her school friends, its too bad that can't be applied to the Japanese traffic laws.
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u/entelechtual 14d ago
I honestly just told myself maybe that’s just a rule for bicycles and not for motorcycles. Then I got proven wrong.
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u/Axslashel 14d ago
It is allowed but not during her first after she got her license. It has the seat for a second person so as long as both are wearing helmets it should be allowed.
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u/thedarkdog https://myanimelist.net/profile/rcop247 14d ago
I know in the US it's more of a making sure the rider has enough experience before also being in control of two lives on one bike.
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u/ryujin199 14d ago
FWIW in many many places you're either not allowed to have passengers with you at all or there are some pretty strict restrictions on how many passengers you can have, even in a "standard" passenger vehicle like a car or sedan for underage or otherwise "new" drivers.
To use an example I'm familiar with, the majority (DC + 46/50) of US states have such restrictions. On a related note, apparently (DC + 49/50) US states currently have night driving restrictions.
Granted: in much of the US, these laws probably aren't as heavily enforced as they should be... but probably better to have them on the books than not imo.
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u/xXxHawkEyeyxXx 14d ago
On a related note, apparently (DC + 49/50) US states currently have night driving restrictions.
What the fuck, you can get a licence at 16 and drive a big-ass truck or a 500 hp supercar but you can't drive during the night...
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u/MyrnaMountWeazel x2 14d ago
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u/badspler x3https://anilist.co/user/badspler 13d ago
I was totally having Super Cub flashbacks when Kano/Kiui were getting their licenses. Particularly when Kano is thinking about where she could go.
Great to see the staff wanted to inject some of those moments, ideas and feelings into their show.
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u/HirokoKueh https://myanimelist.net/profile/hirokokueh 14d ago
they have learned the lesson from Super Cub
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u/mekerpan 14d ago
I wonder if that will ever get a S2 (I very much fear not).
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u/HirokoKueh https://myanimelist.net/profile/hirokokueh 14d ago
likely not, it's rare for CGDCT to get season 2, they need to be extremely popular
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 14d ago
Unfortunatly Kano slept through the lesson
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u/n080dy123 14d ago
I was absolutely crying of laughter with that scene. Big emotional heart-to-heart, yuribaiting, immediate cut to them getting ticketed. Incredible.
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u/absolutelynotaname https://anilist.co/user/Ducc 14d ago edited 14d ago
No one seems to talk much about the new character but with how they set up her I think she would have some bigger role in the next few episodes. She must have an interesting backstory
And you should just confess already, Mahiru. Stop showing those damn cute smug face so much
Edit: also idk if anyone has pointed this out yet but Mahiru(midday) is quite the opposite of Yoru(night), really a smart choice for pen name
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u/Headcap 14d ago
She must have an interesting backstory
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u/Acceptable_Tie_3927 14d ago
Based on the erased back tattoo that "lady" is an ex-yakuza mistress ... if we are lucky. If unlucky, then an ex-yakuza guy who got a new identity and associated surgery, in exchange for becoming a pentito...
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u/ArshayDuskbrow 14d ago
She notes that she had B-cup breasts before her surgery, it won't go like that.
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u/rainbowrobin 14d ago
She notes that she had B-cup breasts before her surgery, it won't go like that.
If she had witness protection surgery, lying about her original gender could be part of that.
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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy 14d ago edited 14d ago
Mahiru(midday) is quite the opposite of Yoru(night)
This makes me wonder a little if there’s any additional meaning to Kano calling Mahiru by her given name. Could this be symbolic of Kano stepping from the dark (night) into the light (midday) too? To (eventually) open up about her feelings?
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u/Organic_Following_38 14d ago
Writing for this show has been pretty top tier at interpolating its plot and its themes, I feel like that is probably intentional.
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u/AnthropologicalArson 14d ago edited 13d ago
I really like how the lighting in the lasts scenes give Yoru's hair purple highlights. The other group members have all actually dyed their hair after significant events in their lives, and her decision to go to art schools and this semi-confession might be just that for her.
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u/TheRejectBin 13d ago
... That tidbit about the dyed hair, it hadn't sunk in before and now it's filling me with anxiety. It feels like a tradgedy set up for some reason. Perhaps because we just saw Kano learn to ride a motorcycle, even though the hair connection has been right there since we learned when Kiwi dyed hers in Episode 3.
I think you're right about Mahiru dyeing her hair, but I think it'll probably be towards the end of the series, Ep 11 or 12. Seems like it'd be just the thing to do before a big uplifting moment. Or after a loss. I really hope it's the former. I want Kano and Mahiru to be happy.
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u/PWBryan 14d ago
I thought it was Kanon's mom at first
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u/Nachtwandler_FS https://myanimelist.net/profile/Nachtwandler_21 14d ago
Me too at first, but after cafeteria scene I got it is a different character.
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u/Figerally https://myanimelist.net/profile/Pixelante 14d ago
Koharu has just appeared out of nowhere, as far as I can tell. The scar on her back hints that she might have been badly injured at some point hence the extensive plastic surgery.
Is she a potential love interest for Kiui? The story beat feels off introducing a character like this halfway through the season so suddenly.
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u/n080dy123 14d ago
No one seems to talk much about the new character
This is the thing that threw me for a loop the most this episode. Like most of this plot has been rather... I don't want to say unoriginal, cuz it's not, but it's largely been within the realm of expectation. Characters get introduced, I have a general idea of what their role in the plot and the overall messaging is. I have NO idea where Koharu fits into all this. She doesn't entirely fit into the "NEET makes a friend" subplot because usually it'd be someone their age to reflect how they couldn't connect with their peers, but she's so much older. She sort of does the mentor trope with Kano, but not with Kiui. And that scar on her back looked like it used to a rose or something? And covering that up, completely changing her appearance, and alluding to "finding yourself with no way to turn back." It's some real heavy shit. Given her seeming otaku interests but artificially-constructed physical beauty (and slight fixation on breast size) I'm wondering if they aren't going for an angle of "She was an average-looking nerdy girl so unsatisfied with herself that she physically changed to be a new person" but that doesn't explain the tattoo scar. That idea could also work as a "bad end" scenario for any of our main characters, but the smoking comment being the first thing she says seems intended to deliberately start drawing a parallel to Kiui, so maybe they intend to go for an angle that she physically reconstructed herself while Kiui virtually reconstructed herself via her avatar?
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u/aniMayor x4myanimelist.net/profile/aniMayor 14d ago
I think the scar on her back was a hint that she probably had some horrible physical injury in the past which damaged far more than that, and the implants, rhinoplasty, etc, were actually to repair disfigurement. And her extremely outgoing/free-spirited personality to the extent of public exhibitionism is a counter-reaction to her past where she was reclusive because of her disfigurement. Or something like that.
But will they actually do anything with her in the rest of the show? Guess we'll see. Apparently this show is part of a larger media mix project so possible she's not really going to show up anymore in the anime but will have a bigger role in the book or something.
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u/Mountebank https://myanimelist.net/profile/Mountebank 14d ago
I think the scar on her back was a hint that she probably had some horrible physical injury
The back scar seems to be removal of a rose tattoo which would imply that she was part of the Yakuza. She probably got facial surgery and changed her identity to get away from that life.
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u/mekerpan 14d ago
Public Service notice:
Do not miss the very tiny (and utterly tragic) post-credits mini-scene.
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u/Hitman7128 https://anilist.co/user/Hitman7128 14d ago
Yeah, it was like, oh cool, can't wait to see Kano and Mahiru to ride together on motorcycle and then nope, law stipulates they have to wait another year after the license to ride together.
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u/entelechtual 14d ago
But… does the law say they have to wait to ride together?
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u/1998tweety https://myanimelist.net/profile/1998tweety 14d ago
I've seen too many anime where something tragic unexpectedly happens so I thought Kano would get into a crash but at least it was just demerit points.
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u/shad79 https://myanimelist.net/profile/shad79 14d ago edited 14d ago
Once again we had a great episode, it was more focused on Kano and Kiui but Mahiru and Mei also get a chance to shine today.
Driver's ed camp with Kano and Kiui was so fun! And Koharu was a great addition to the cast and very fitting into this series, I really hope that she'll return in next episodes.
The scenes with Kano, Kiui and Koharu in a bath were hilarious xD I didn't expect that we'll get boobs groping in this show (Koharu was really happy about that though xD) but it's a shame that it was censored. Those boobs were certainly big ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I was really surprised when Kiui revealed that she wants to become a teacher but after her explanation I can understand her choice. She'd really be a great teacher with this attitude to help other students who, just like her, end up alone.
Scenes with Mahiru and Kano on the beach were so good! I really would love for them to end up together at the end of the series, especially after Mahiru's words to Kano to sing for her and that she loves Kano's singing.
Kano and Mahiru being caught by police for riding a bike together was hilarious xD
Here my screenshot albums from the episode:
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u/DekMuffin 14d ago
The lesbian tension in this episode is off the roof!
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u/sangriapenguin 14d ago
When Koharu started talking to Kiui, my "she's hitting on her" alarms started blaring lol
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u/Catfish017 14d ago
I need to adjust my flirting techniques then.
Ask her how big her boobs are immediately.
Flash her, have her feel you up
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u/Familiar_Control_906 14d ago
I thought the same thing. I was so weird out that a character in this show, were we're still wondering if the main girls are gay or "very friendly", would be this openly hitting on someone
But that end part between those two. I BELIEVE she was coming on to her. And kiui is accepting it so casually. She even tell her vtuber persona, that is nuts, that is so fucking personal i'm amazed she tell her
Pink girl REALLY wants to grope those boobs in private
And I'm so down for it
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u/dagreenman18 14d ago
Doga Kobo might actually deliver on this ship. Please please deliver on this ship. She’s built perfectly. A mighty fine vessel with plenty to root for and awesome chemistry.
Speaking of mighty fine: one week we got the GOAT Mom Idol, this week we get girl with rough past. Jellyfish is delivering hard on great women.
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u/Krazee9 14d ago
Yoru really seems to have realized something with that kiss. She's been much more flirty and tease-y with Kano since. She seems like she's made up her mind on this, she likes Kano, but it seems like she realizes that Kano might not want to admit that she feels the same. She's trying to tease it out of her a bit, but Yoru honestly seems to be developing as a character at a rather fast rate. I wouldn't be surprised if she decides she's tired of waiting for Kano to make the first "official" move, and just does it herself.
Kano didn't know what to do on that bike, so she immediately went to find Yoru. And Yoru just hopping on that bike and ditching her friends was basically, "Sorry, my girlfriend's here to pick me up. See ya!"
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u/Aksudiigkr 14d ago
I was confused though on the bike when Kano looked at her phone, was Yoru texting her or was it a social media notification? The phone wasn’t translated on my fansub so I couldn’t tell
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u/ali94127 14d ago
It looks like a text message. The sender also says Mahiru and not Yoru, so probably not her Twitter handle. Her message reads that she’s in Shibuya and the attached image looks delicious. We can see a jpg attachment notification which I don’t think Twitter or instagram would have that.
Her message reads, “今、渋谷~! 美味しそうでしょっ” Translated: At Shibuya now! Looks delicious!
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u/x-7032-b-3 14d ago
I thought this season has enough "what do you want to do in the future" stuff with GBC and Eupho showing theirs already, but Jellyfish went all in and gave us a whole ep about it! This is probably the most relatable for me though, as I was quite anxious about my future back in HS (and honestly still am as someone in their mid 20s).
NGL I think Kiui would make a fine teacher in the future. She knew what it's like to not be accepted out there and wants to be there for others like her. And with her personality I think she would be popular among the students. I really respect that and she gets tons of extra points from me because of that.
Okay, I did not expect that boob fanservice to go that far. The whole thing went from cup sizes to whatever it was over there.
After that beach scene, can Yoru and Kano start dating already? Man they're teasing us with the kiss and now this lol.
Love how Kano got ticketed just after got her license. This is why you don't skimp on lectures, kids!
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u/alconnow https://anilist.co/user/alconnow 14d ago
The scar on Koharu's back makes me think that she's a former gang member? Ex-yakuza?
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u/WeebDickerson 13d ago
Lots of cosmetic surgery and scars of a removed tattoo on her back. I definitely think it's ex-yakuza, or at least ex-yakuza mistress
I would love to be wrong though. Maybe they can come up with something more interesting
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u/flightlessCat9 13d ago
Plus that plastic surgery is probably she trying to hide from her yakuza past.
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u/zool714 14d ago
Woah this ep hits close to home in more ways than one.
For one, I literally just registered for a bike license. Gonna start taking the theory lessons soon.
And also, the “gotta have a plan or you’re screwed” part of the show is too relatable as well. I’m at the “find out” phase after “fucking around” most of my 20s just being idle, stagnant and not proactive. Now, I’m seeing people my age at least going up in their careers or jobs, even if it’s not the most glamorous or interesting or heck some of them don’t even like their jobs but at least they’re doing something you know. Meanwhile, I’m struggling to get entry level jobs cos I got nothing to offer and no marketable experience. And I’m still not sure what I want to do. So I really get Kano this episode.
And I wonder what’s Koharu’s story. I’ve honestly never seen plastic surgery being so openly talked about in anime and it’s talked about so casually too.
I also like we’re like rotating the pairs. I think we had Kiui and Mei the other episode and now Yoru and Mei, Kiui and Kano are spending some quality time.
Yeah spending some totally straight quality time riding a motorbike and going to the beach at sunset.
Oh does Yoru really have someone she admires ? I thought she was just alluding to Kano. There could be an actual person that she likes ??
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u/NeonDelteros https://myanimelist.net/profile/NeonDelteros 14d ago
Oh does Yoru really have someone she admires ? I thought she was just alluding to Kano. There could be an actual person that she likes ??
I mean, isn't it obvious that it's Kano she was talking about
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u/mekerpan 14d ago
Mahiru absolutely cares for Kano more than anyone else in her world. Make of that what you will...
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u/x-7032-b-3 14d ago
Now, I’m seeing people my age at least going up in their careers or jobs, even if it’s not the most glamorous or interesting or heck some of them don’t even like their jobs but at least they’re doing something you know. Meanwhile, I’m struggling to get entry level jobs cos I got nothing to offer and no marketable experience.
Same boat here. Mid 20s rn and I'm already seeing my former classmates climbing up the ladder while I'm here being a useless prick at home. I do have a plan laid out but I'm always scared that I'm just gonna be like this forever if I fail.
This ep kinda inspired me to keep going. Kano getting her license is a big step forward for her even if it's not all related to what she actually wants to do. I should get back to my (self) studies tomorrow.
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u/Talinko https://myanimelist.net/profile/Talinko 14d ago
Some people have a smooth sailing in life while some of us need to weather storms and rough seas.
Don't know if you're studying for something or learning new skills, but I'll tell you it's worth it ! I personally went back to school at 28 to get a degree after failing university years prior and it was a great decision !
Please remember that you also deserve a good and happy life, even if your brain might tell you otherwise from time to time (I might be projecting here)
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u/ergzay 14d ago edited 14d ago
I'm always scared that I'm just gonna be like this forever if I fail.
If you take the first step you may fail, but if you don't take the first step you'll definitely fail. Makes the decision pretty easy.
Also, failure from trying something is a good thing. It's how you learn. If you can learn the magic skill of embracing failure you can go almost anywhere.
Also "no time like the present".
This is coming from a guy in his mid 30s and what I tell myself. I've had some success in life, but no failure, and am currently stagnating. Learning how to fail is really important and the sooner you do it the better.
The biggest success stories you hear about always had hefty doses of failure. Hard to be successful without failing a lot.
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u/OfficialPrower 14d ago
Came to the thread to see if anyone was echoing the same sentiment. This shit be hitting too close to home every week like get out of my head lol
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u/FuzzyRaichu 14d ago
The time between their meet cute on Halloween and the kiss on New Year’s was two months.
The time between the kiss and the start of the new school year is three months.
These useless lesbians need to pick up the pace.
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u/kisaragihiu 13d ago
We also see that the beach date happens on May 20, first from Kano's phone and then from Mahiru's phone. It's been almost half a year in-universe since the kiss
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u/LeonKevlar https://myanimelist.net/profile/LeonKevlar 14d ago
Stitches!
I did not know our girls are third years! I thought they were like first or second years. Also what I did not expect is that despite being a massive NEET and doing nothing but stream, Kiui has everything figured out and she actually has the most concrete plan for the future out of all of them. That's so awesome.
I had a feeling that Kiui wanted to become a middle school teacher is connected to her past. Honestly, I think she'd be an amazing middle school teacher. She'd be the cool kind of teacher who'd support and help her student's talent's grow instead of whatever the fuck her middle school teacher told her.
Koharu is pretty cool. I did not expect that she had work done on her face and even poured a million yen on implants. As fun as it was to see her flash her tits at Kiui and Kano as well as the scene where they actually grope her implants, I feel like there's definitely more to her.
Based on that massive scar on her back, it looks like a burn mark or she had a tattoo removed. I don't think Koharu had work done on her face and body purely for cosmetic reasons. Whatever her reason is, I hope we'll get to see more of her in the future considering she lives close to Kiui.
Side note: I did not expect Kiui to be so fucking stacked! She's always wearing baggy clothes so it's really hard to tell. And she's even larger than Koharu! Damn! O_O
Yooo! Mahiru actually wants to go to an art university! That is awesome! I'm glad this ended with her finally deciding what to do next. Also, Mahiru and Kano's date at the beach was really sweet! The lesbian tension is so thick between the two of them that you can cut it with a knife!
And I just love how it ended with the two of them getting pulled over! I had a feeling this might happen. Japan is already strict with riding in tandem on bikes so I'm pretty sure someone who just got their license isn't allowed to ride with passengers. xD
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u/Abysswatcherbel 14d ago
That's a perfect out of context pic
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u/gmarvin https://myanimelist.net/profile/allieg93 14d ago
It's still wild even in context
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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy 14d ago edited 14d ago
Koharu’s Back Scar
Now I’m having a closer look, it seems to be shaped like a flower - maybe a rose?
This scar could be the aftermath of laser tattoo removal. If so, why did Koharu have such a tattoo?
I’m thinking that she might’ve been part of the Yakuza. Such iconography wouldn’t be uncommon in the back tattoos inked on Yakuza members. Especially since having tattoos is heavily frowned upon in Japan.
EDIT: This theory feels a bit out of place for the anime, but what if Koharu had her appearance drastically altered because she left the Yakuza and/or is targeted by them?
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u/gnome-cop 14d ago
I sincerely apologize but I must make the joke. Since Kiui makes the ED videos, I think she should be promoted from the short stack of the group to the short stack-ED of the group.
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u/AnimeHoarder 14d ago
Worth it! ... I get a much different reaction when I ask women their bra size :-)
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u/susgnome https://anime-planet.com/users/RoyalRampage 14d ago
Well yeah. You've gotta tell them yours first.
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u/chilidirigible 14d ago
Kiui and Mei have career goals that have at least some degree of separation from the group, but Yoru's is rather directly pointed back at Kano, and Kano... realized that she wasn't really sure where she was going, thus motorcycle metaphors.
And yeah, they're pretty damn gay for each other though it seems that Mahiru is more aware of it than Kano. This could go a few ways and some are more dramatic than others.
Koharu is an interesting addition, being an adult (with mosaicing and all that) yet not too far removed from the free-spiritedness that the group of main characters are seeking. Though she did change a lot at some recent point.
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u/mekerpan 14d ago
I wonder how old Koharu is. She could be as young as 20 (but have had some very difficult circumstances already -- which she has now hopefully escaped).
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u/binhexed 14d ago
She has to be older than 20. The tattoo removal could have been more recent, but all that other work costs money. Lots of money. She either had very indulgent parents, or she lived a life of regrets. I am guessing 25. Not sure how she earns her money. She zeroed in on Kiwi being an interesting someone she wanted to be friends with pretty quickly. Kiwi was smart to start with online games first. Better not follow her to her apartment for a while.
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u/djthomp 14d ago
I would never have expected Kiui's middle school teacher career plan. That's a nice backstory for why she's thinking about that.
This random lady they found at the motorcycle training course is very strange, and maybe a little sus. Ex-Yakuza maybe? That looked like a scar from a removed tattoo on her back. If this was a different show her making a connection like this with Kiui would have me on edge.
That was a fairly gay way to end the episode. It does feel like they're pushing the Kano and Yoru relationship a lot, at the very least.
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u/tripleaamin https://myanimelist.net/profile/tripleaamin 14d ago
We're getting insights on each of the girls futures. Mahiru and Mei are going to a university. I really like Kiui's dream of going to become a middle school teacher. Adults and teachers in general should be ones that can guide us to grow. It seems obvious Kiui didn't have that in middle school. Teaching can be a very fulfilling job and I think that suits her well.
Kano on the other hand is still trying to find her way. Which is more than fine as she has JELEE as her goal. This episode still really highlights how big of an impact Kano has made for Mahiru. Honestly without her, she wouldn't have made the push to apply for art school. Also, Mahiru absolutely has fallen for Kano and a twist even teases her. This is easily the best Girls Love series since Bloom Into You.
Kano has that kind of it factor. She is kind of the idiot in the group, but she provides that kickstarter for each of them. She is truly the foundation of the group.
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u/FySine 14d ago
As a biker myself, bikes and motorbiking in general embodies the freedom of both travelling anywhere you want, and connecting with nature.
Kano did the perfect thing trying to learn how to ride a bike when she was feeling lost. Also holy shit she looks such an absolute badass riding one.
Also we get a beach date and flirting and also get some cute wholesome moments. I never thought I would see a yuri motorbike date in an anime. I feel satisfied, already a 10/10 show with its writing and direction uptill now.
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u/NerdyArchimedes 14d ago
It seems like Kano's decision to get a license wasn't completely out of the blue. I was just recently looking at the official in-universe JELEE X account, and one of the posts is Kano saying she feels like going to the beach and wishing she could ride a motorbike at times like this. I guess Kiui just gave her a good excuse to finally go do it.
There're actually a lot of interesting little interactions on the account like Kano hoping Mahiru would cook for her sometime and Mei getting jealous over their aquarium trip, so if you know any Japanese or are ok with Google Translate it is worth checking out.
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u/HakumeiJin 14d ago
Very sweet episode but I wonder if we're actually approaching the point where we finally find out about Kano's past. Unlike Kiui who is a superhuman that appears to earn enough to live on as a high schooler, I'm assuming she's actually dependent on her mother to enjoy the life she's been living but we've still had basically no interactions between them. While Mahiru's words might be enough in terms of her own future goals, I feel like there must be drama approaching on that front.
There's still so many mysteries left on what exactly happened in her past that only got more complicated with the addition of the mother into the mix when we had a glimpse of her group. Considering how the show handled the past trauma of the other girls so far already, I'm really getting curious about what lies there with the anime in its second half already.
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u/WhoiusBarrel 14d ago
So far all the flashbacks have been just 1 episode, with how Kano's past has been dripfed across the episodes so far, they're probably setting it up as some concluding arc for the season finale considering its been one of the major hooks of the show so far.
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u/AnxiousSea02 14d ago
Unlike Kiui who is a superhuman that appears to earn enough to live on as a high schooler
She doesn't, while she does make her money she still lives with her parents. In ep 3 we see that they left a couple of sandwiches and 1000¥ to her
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u/HakumeiJin 14d ago
Yeah, was saying that because her reaction was told you I didn't need the money. But it would make sense if she is somewhere between can buy her own food and can pay her own rent as well.
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u/Elite_Alice https://myanimelist.net/profile/Marinate1016 14d ago edited 14d ago
Best episode by faaaar, and that’s saying something. Every episode has been a step above the last.
That 17-18 year old range is one of the most difficult time periods in your life. It feels like you should have everything planned out and things start coming at you so quickly, but the reality is it’s ok to not have it all mapped out. It’s ok to be lost and just take it day by day.
I think a lot of people will be able to relate to Kano in this episode. Sometimes we look at our peers and see they have concrete plans for the future and it makes us feel insecure, but everyone moves at their own pace and you’ll never win a race against someone else’s life.
Enjoyed seeing her gradually come to terms with the fact that if you pursue your passions, you’ll eventually find the right path and it’ll fall in place over the course of the episode and the bike ride at the end is a nice analogy for that. Too bad Kano didn’t pay attention to the terms of her license and got a ticket 😭 worth it for the Kano and Yoru moments we got at the end there. “Say you’ll sing for me cause I really love your singing” 😍
Also, the scene of Yoru pulling Kano forward is a direct callback to the end of episode 1 with Kano pulling Yoru. That’s what we call character development.
Kiui and Kano getting groomed by Koharu still got me crying though “they’re high school girls, I hope this isn’t a crime”, deadass had to pause my tv several times during that half of the episode lmao. Didn’t expect straight up titties in my Yorukura this week.
Kiui becoming a teacher to be the person she never had in her life is so sweet and such a real motivation for so many real life educators. She’ll make a great one because she’ll truly be able to understand her students.
Amazing episode, so proud of my babies this week.
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u/Rumpel1408 https://myanimelist.net/profile/Rumpel1408 14d ago
Kano, calculating Kiuis Cup size... Bigger than F?!?
And yes, pretty sure this is infact a crime. Genereally got pretty dubious vibes from that girl, and the scar on her back makes me think former Yakuza maybe?
Also, Kano slept thorugh the theory lessons, and failed the written exam as well as forgot how she isn't supposed to have someone on her back for a year, curious indeed.
Nice SoL episode. Didnn't think Kiui got her life so figured out considering she's a hikimori neet who earns her money by Vtubing.
In contrast Kano seems to go without much of an direction and purely on instinct...
And Yoru is sending her some pretty clear signals to fix that huh
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u/ThisGachaSeemsLegit 14d ago
Given how Koharu said "I'm the one who's usually asked for my contact info", I'm guessing she's a big online personality (not offline I think, otherwise the girls would've found out), and probably a big one at that, given how she can afford such costly surgery.
Plot twist incoming !
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u/IXajll https://myanimelist.net/profile/ixajii 14d ago
Fun episode all around, was especially enjoying the Kiui and Kano driving school parts and the bike date at the end. Was hoping for a bit more Kano and Mahiru development at the beach but it was better than nothing and we’re only at ep 7 after all. Kiui reinforcing her best girl status even further, I just like her character and general attitude the most, the way she still stays true to herself after everything. Also really liking her motives for wanting to become a teacher as well. Wondering what’s the deal with Koharu, she’s probably some big personality in the music business and will come back later when the show decides to actually forward the plot again. Kano is growing on me more and more each episode too, she’s probably my 2nd favorite character of the show by now. The censored scene in the bath was kinda funny, got the feeling it was meant as a sort of satire of the japanese censorship laws since they went so over the top with pixelating the complete screen instead of just the booba.
Also, damn, how fast can you get a license in japan lol, that was like a week at most, no? Here in Germany it takes about half a year from dirst lesson to license iirc.
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u/Ocixo https://myanimelist.net/profile/BuzzyGuy 14d ago
I’m still trying to figure out if Koharu was hitting on Kiui or just being friendly. At the very least, she’s made a new friend. Something that’s a big deal for Kiui who’s living world is largely confined to her room.
Maybe that’s also partially why Kiui started streaming and got her driver’s license? To keep in touch with the outside world? Her being an “indoorsy type” is not so much in her nature as it was as a coping mechanism to deal with her anxieties.
The driver’s license is surely also a means for Kiui to literally broaden her horizons and regain some of her lost freedom. It will be a thorny path before she’s ready to teach at a school after all.
I do hope that Kiui will also take the step to meet up with Koharu in real life instead of online. I want her to be comfortable with the outside world again!
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u/IXajll https://myanimelist.net/profile/ixajii 14d ago
Maybe that’s also partially why Kiui started streaming and got her driver’s license? To keep in touch with the outside world? Her being an “indoorsy type” is not so much in her nature as it was as a coping mechanism to deal with her anxieties.
Personally I wouldn’t even say maybe, imo that’s 100% right on the money. And I respect and admire her extremely for this, that she’s taking her life into her own hands again, leaving her comfort zone and doing her thing to reach her goals in life without leaning and relying on others. She simply decided she’s going out there, get a license and become a teacher while saying something like “fuck normality” (not sure how it’s subbed in english, can only watch this show with ger subs unfortunately). Simply best girl of the show, can’t help repeating myself.
Also I feel like Koharu was thinking of Kiui more as a friend, personally didn’t get too many romantic vibes during their scenes, more like playful teasing. Could go either way though, anything’s still possible at this point.
I want her to be comfortable with the outside world again!
This so much, wholeheartedly agreed. She’s taking a lot of steps in the right direction and making good progress but it still hit me right in the Kokoro how she felt the need to go to her school with a wig and then having her voice crack when she couldn’t quite muster the courage to speak up against those two girls in the hallway who were badmouthing her.
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u/danlong87 14d ago
Plus they seemed to have to stay in a hostel together during the whole process? Really interesting to see the difference in the process of getting the license in different countries
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u/HirokoKueh https://myanimelist.net/profile/hirokokueh 14d ago
I guess they live in the training facility to get more training hours, (morning + afternoon + night) X 7 days = 21 lessons, almost half a year (24 weeks) of course concentrated into a week
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u/oneevilchicken https://anilist.co/user/OneEvilChicken 14d ago
In the U.S. it takes an hour to get a license.
If that long. A lot of places don’t even require a driving test. Just written.
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u/mekerpan 14d ago
Certainly motorbike licenses might only require an eye test and written exam. Most states require driving tests (for auto licenses) -- unless you already have a license from another state that you are "trading in". In Massachusetts one might have to wait for a long time to schedule one's driving test.
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u/weeb_cognito 14d ago
I'm glad I'm not a teenager with this show, Euphonium and Girl's Band Cry all having episodes around plans for after finishing school! I bet we'll see Yori fretting over it soon, too.
Kiui's grown on me a lot, I like the contrast of her introduction as a juvenile fantasist yet beneath that persona she's a fairly grounded realist with mature and achievable ambitions for the future. I think she'd make a fab teacher.
If Yoru and Kano don't end up together it will be the biggest yuribait of all time (maybe). At least Mei would be happy though - when she was stressing over Kiui and Kano bunking together I thought Yoru was patting her on the head to tell her "You don't need to worry about that, nothing will happen between them as Kano's already mine."
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u/LaconicKibitz 14d ago edited 14d ago
Is Koharu in witness protection or something? The scar on her back looks like a tattoo removal scar due to the shape. In Japan, that generally correlates to yakuza or other criminal organizations. They play it for a joke when talking about her breast implants, but she had plastic surgery to change her face. I might just be overthinking, but these two aspect are just pretty suspicious.
Edit: I looked up sutures and epicanthoplasty. My theory is no longer valid. These two procedures are used to adjust the shape of people's eyes, specially to cut away some skin to allow people to open their eyes wider. It's as superficial as Koharu plays it off to be as it doesn't really affect the shape of the face. Also, don't look up images of epicanthoplasty if you're squeamish.
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u/ReeseEseer 14d ago
I am amazed how amazing this episode was.
Great interactions with Kiui and Kano AND with Mei and Mahiru.
Which would have been enough for an episode but we also got Kiui making a "friend"(?) outside the group with Koharu.
But wait! THEN we get the absolutely amazing interaction with Kano and Mahiru to end things. Mahiru is absolutely teasing Kano flirtatiously too, there is no other explanation whatsoever. Sing/Draw for me is their love language.(Also dumbdumb-Kano not realizing Mahiru was talking about her at first was so funny)
This felt like 2 episodes worth of interactions and content in ONE episode but it didnt feel rushed or anything. The writing and pacing is next level.
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u/PsycDrone63 14d ago edited 14d ago
CAN WE GET MORE GAYER! SO GAY!
If I have to add something new the bombshell biker girl is gonna be a rival in the inevitable battle of bands in the finale, and with the revelation of her tragic past too.
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u/maliwanag0712 https://myanimelist.net/profile/clear1109 14d ago
What seemed to be a semi-random episode about learning how to bike has become a way to show Kano's concern about her future. I really like the parallels of just looking forward in both learning the motorcycle and in knowing the future.
In the end, we see Yoru asking Kano to sing for her. We're becoming Sasakoi at this point kidding.
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u/cleofrom9to5 14d ago
Great episode, thought I'm a bit lost on the importance of the plastic surgery stuff with the new character.
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u/qscdefb 14d ago
Plastic surgery serves as some sort of foil against being a vtuber. Both are about presenting a better image of oneself, with the crucial difference being there’s much less room for backtracking in the case of plastic surgery (and maybe tattoos, hence the scar on the back). Contrast of Kiui who has good planning and Koharu who kind of screwed up due to inadequate planning, and maybe with Kano who in real time has almost no planning.
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u/HirokoKueh https://myanimelist.net/profile/hirokokueh 14d ago
what I am thinking is, Kano, Kiwi, and Mei all dyed their hair to start their new lifestyle, Koharu also got a new face for her new life.
also she kinda looks like producer Yukine (Kano's mother), one key feature of Kano is her Cleopatra nose, Koharu also modded her nose, it is possible that she intentional trying to copy Yukine's look, like how Mei mimic Nonoka (Kano).
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u/gc11117 14d ago
Based on the lasered off tattoo on her back, new boobs and new face, it seems she's probably abandoned a Yakuza lifestyle. She's symbolic of leaving your rough past for a new beginning, which parallels with Kiui and what she's doing. Shedding her painful school past, for a new beginning
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u/New_Essay_4869 14d ago
Before this season began, I called that this would be my faborite show this season and Im absolutely loving it so far. Very intrigued by this Koharu character. Didnt even notice she was in the OP until i rewatched it after watching this episode.
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u/Chili_peanut 13d ago
The meaning behind the title of the episode, "Daybreak", is actually very clever and really easy to miss. Mahiru's name means "midday" and her nickname Yoru means "night" in Japanese. At the very end of the episode Kano calls Mahiru by her real name for the first (?) time, thus calling her "day" instead of "night".
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u/Zero3020 14d ago
This woman really just let two high school girls fondle her boobs and hit on one of them 💀
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u/szalhi 14d ago
Wow, I can't believe we finally saw the main character after 7 episodes.
Yoru initially saying she was 'just going to go to University' scared me, because that's a common trap. But if she's feeling more specific now, then it's fine enough.
I feel for Kano spontaneously deciding to get a license. It feels like a nice way to fill the gap, and it's technically useful, though it does feel awkward a bit afterwards.
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u/Castawaye https://anilist.co/user/DekorationXanNex 14d ago
They knew what we wanted so they gave us another kiss. I am praying that they stick to the guns of what they have presented on screen and the undertext they have given even with how they navigated the last scene of where Kano kind of works around this idea of moving forward without a clear direction but finding that direction in her friends. If they don't actually pull through with the yuri, I fear that will cause great contention around this show.
Regardless, I do like how on the nose, the whole motorbike arc Kano went on says about her interiority regarding what to do moving forward. Just like with riding the bike, she perhaps wasn't looking forward and not really sure of why she is doing what she is doing. She doesn't even know why she wants all those Twitter followers! But when Yoru declares, in a roundabout way when Kano is asking where she should be going on her bike that it doesn't matter its perhaps more directed at where Kano should go in the future. It doesn't really matter, as long as Kano has some kind of purpose that she has declared for herself. All of the other characters have found that path, even Kiui, which was awesome to see.
It's also an interesting note that Kiui finds a new friend during this whole training camp bit because, Yoru has found Kano, we saw prior how Yoru's night time calls were with Kano. That kinda leaves Kiui behind in a tangential way. But now, not so much. If the show is, in a way about change, and reclaiming parts of themselves that they've lost, and rekindling things, then Kiui here finding a comrade here, who is accepting of Kiui's eccentrics, that in a way is quite fitting considering how it was Kiui's eccentrics before that she had lost and had stifled.
And even more so, that character having all of that plastic surgery, but practically flaunting her appearances and being so open with it and enjoying when other people admire her appearances, is quite fitting for the both of them. Kiui has to use a disguise when she briefly visits her school. But her true self unabashedly is much different and shares a similar idea of this complete makeover that Koharu has gone over where she says her entire face has been done. Both characters are in their element as they are now, wholly themselves and comfortable with who they are now and how they present themselves and I think that's a cool little side tangent with them and Kiui in particular.
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u/TheRejectBin 14d ago
I'm kicking my legs and punching the air for these girls right now.