r/clevercomebacks 27d ago

That's some seriously old beer!

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u/bellendhunter 27d ago

I remember reading a comment on here about a young lady who didn’t realise US Independence Day isn’t celebrated around the world. I kinda get it, America is absolutely the centre of the world in America. Whereas I legitimately cannot go to the local shop without meeting someone from a different country.

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

I was speaking to a US girl a few years ago, close to July 4th. She got really confused when I said I wasn't going to be doing anything to celebrate it. I'm British...

Then once I explained it to her, she then said 'oh, I guess it's still a bit of a sore point for you guys, right?' Lol, no. It's a meaningless day for us - the US was one of our many colonies. We lost it, which probably sucked at the time but we've kinda moved on now. We don't do that empire thing any more.

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/76pilot 27d ago

I don’t think the British could grasp the concept of stop fucking expanding into land you don’t own.

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u/hardworkalvvays 27d ago

Brits try not to look fondly on colonialist history challenge (impossible)

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u/SlightProgrammer 27d ago

How is that looking fondly, he's just recounting what happened.

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u/thomascoopers 27d ago

You sound like another salty Brit to me!!1! (Is likely their comeback)

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u/hardworkalvvays 27d ago

You can count the ways but I'd start with complaining that the colonies didn't follow colonialist guidelines well enough and favoring "we" over distancing language. You can ask chatGPT for a sentiment analysis if that's not enough

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u/SlightProgrammer 27d ago

Haha I'd rather not get any information from ChatGPT, I really don't think he meant anything that malicious by referring to them as "we", It's like saying "when we ousted Oliver Cromwell." Most people understand that the person saying that is far removed from it and most likely using it for simplicitys sake cause y'know they weren't actually knocking about in the 15th century. but if that's how you see it, so be it.

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u/hardworkalvvays 27d ago

Sentiment analysis isn't asking for factual information.

You ducked my first point and focused on my second. I only ever hear americans say "we" with regards to their harmful past with lament. The only lament in the other posters comment was lamenting that colonization could've been better.

It's not so much my take as how language is used. It might not have been what they intended, but it's what they delivered

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u/SlightProgrammer 27d ago

Well I suppose this is a miscommunication, As I reckon a lot of people I know would take no offence to a statement like that whatsoever.

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u/hardworkalvvays 26d ago

My apologies, I didn't intend to offend you. Just cheekily noting that the statement I initially responded to represents a problematic perspective

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u/etkaiser 27d ago

American history is colonialist history, you didn't get so big by asking the Indians to move out nicely.

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u/hardworkalvvays 27d ago

it'd be a great point if I spoke fondly of that history and was american

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u/_Winfield 27d ago

American history is European history, the americas werent colonized and 90% of natives wiped out by invading "americans"

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u/apoxpred 27d ago

Redditor try to comprehend the tone of a reddit comment challenge (Sisyphean)

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u/hardworkalvvays 27d ago edited 27d ago

From chatGPT: 

The statement reflects on the loss of a colony due to a lack of commitment to occupy it, particularly in contrast to other North American colonies. It also criticizes the colonists' tendency to provoke wars with the French by expanding westward into disputed territory. The sentiment is somewhat critical and frustrated.

They're complaining that colonization wasn't effective enough. I get that you aren't able to understand how that relates. The English tragically aren't very adept with their eponymous language

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u/CorruptedAssbringer 27d ago edited 26d ago

Guy quotes a literal AI chatbot as their attempt to read tone when everyone else understands the first guy just fine.

You ain't making the point you think you're making there buddy.

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u/apoxpred 27d ago

No I'm okay with, that was the most cohesive part of his comment.

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u/_Winfield 27d ago

"Stop fucking expanding west into land you dont own"

The absolute irony is off the charts

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u/HellsTubularBells 27d ago

A British friend was visiting last summer and lamenting that they wouldn't be in the US for the 4th of July. "That's your Independence Day, right? Independence from what?" My friend, independence days are your number one export, take some pride in your heritage!

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u/ContributionNo9292 27d ago

I always suggest to my UK colleagues that they should start celebrating all the independence days they created around the world. They would gain a potential 48 extra holidays per year.

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u/[deleted] 27d ago

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u/ContributionNo9292 27d ago

Not all celebrate their independence, but I haven’t checked for overlap.

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u/Mista_Cash_Ew 27d ago

Oddly enough I had the same conversation but the opposite way round. I'm British and was talking with this American girl about how American English is different from British English, and I mentioned in passing that all the other former colonies that use English have differences too.

She then told me that the US wasn't a colony, so it wasn't the same. So I asked her what she thought she was celebrating on the 4th of July.

To give credit where it's due, we were teenagers at the time and she did accept that she was wrong

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u/RearAdmiralTaint 27d ago

That is fuckin wild

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u/FlirtyFluffyFox 27d ago

America should have marketed it as Democracy Day. 

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u/DaBozz88 27d ago

What's wild is that US and Canada both celebrate Thanksgiving but on different days. Sometimes almost a month apart.

One year while doing work in Toronto I was able to get both as paid holidays.

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u/Norse_By_North_West 27d ago

Many cultures have harvest festivals, it's what Halloween is as well.

I think it's more interesting that Canada day and independance day are just 3 days apart. Last year we both had the same long weekend for it iirc.

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u/Cautious_Rabbit_5037 27d ago

That’s completely idiotic that someone would think that. Probably someone who is uneducated and has never left the country. What’s funny is that an equally uneducated person from a different country wouldn’t assume their Independence Day was celebrated around the world.

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u/hardworkalvvays 27d ago

What's even funnier is you could swap the countries and still find people to fit the bill for both

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u/pharmaboy2 27d ago

I fucking hate Facebook groups and an idiot from the US will post up something for sale in dollars - like there’s a whole fucking world out there, with numerous dollar currencies, and 198 other countries - just say where you are and don’t expect everyone else to live inside your head !

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u/SadderestCat 27d ago

Well you gotta think of America as it is. Our country is so huge that we could pretty much be our own continent, and unlike a country like Russia or China there is no one heavily populated area but a bunch of them all around. Quite a lot of Americans will never meet someone from another country, and even after traveling thousands of miles they may never leave the country.

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u/Haandbaag 27d ago

What are you even talking about? China has a huge population spread a massive swathe of the country. Their mega cities are unimaginable to most Americans and these are dotted all around. A very brief stroll through the internet will give you that info.

You’re really just reaffirming all the derision in this thread has for ignorant Americans talking absolute bollocks.

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u/pharmaboy2 27d ago

Your reply has been upvoted for the excellent use of the word bollocks! ;D

They should compare to Australia for distance - at least here you can drive for 6 hours and not see anyone