r/clevercomebacks 27d ago

That's some seriously old beer!

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u/Fluffiebunnie 27d ago

The craft beer boom that took hold of Europe from the late 2000's/early 2010's started in US/Canada. So the OP Is not completely wrong.

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u/GledaTheGoat 27d ago

Making your own beer at home or small breweries by definition is something that's always happened.

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u/Impossible-Wear-7352 27d ago

There was a major shift in the number of micro breweries popping up and an incredible increase in the amount of experimentation happening. The scene changed extremely fast.

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u/Ordinary-Score-9871 27d ago

Lmao maybe across America. But this was the norm literally everywhere else for a long time. Even the APA was only invented in the 80’s. You wanna guess when the IPA was invented in England? Or stouts and porters? Saisons are older than anything America created. sours and Belgians, and I’m only naming the mainstream ones, there’s literally so many . Lmao experimenting? Bruh this guy thinks everyone was drinking a generic lager till America showed up. Smh.

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u/FarkCookies 26d ago

Bruh this guy thinks everyone was drinking a generic lager till America showed up.

There is some a degree of truth in it. I can speak from my own observations. Growing up in Easter Europe range of beer varieties was very limited. No microbreweries and no experimentation on a large scale. First time I went to the US in 2007 and I was like wtf are all those beers? Like having 10 varietes on tap in a bar was pretty unheard of. That's where I learned about IPAs. Then I went to mainland Europe in 2010 and 90%+ of what people were drinking were lagers and weißbiers. I am talking mostly Netherlands and Germany. Ofc Belgian beers were always a thing and they had more varieties. But the whole thing was in a stasis, there were traditions, there were preferences that didn't chnage much for decades. Now fast forward to 2010s - what I personally noticed that a lot of that US beer culture started to gain grounds all accross Europe. And it happened fast. So to sum it by the US didn't "invent" microbeweries and experimentation but they did introduce certain beer trends that got imported into Europe. Like I don't remember any fruity hazy triple IPA stuff in Munich 10 years ago when I went there for the first time and now it is all over the place.

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u/Impossible-Wear-7352 26d ago

Spoken as someone who knows nothing about the beer scene or its trends. You really shouldn't comment about the things yoi know nothing about. The experimentation has nothing to do with the things you assumed I meant but never said. Wow, lol.

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u/Fluffiebunnie 26d ago

Sure but I'm talking about the craft beer boom. It's a very specific thing that happened in the late 00's.

We all know that people have been brewing beer at small scales for millennia.

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u/Penguin_scrotum 25d ago

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Craft_beer#Craft_brewery

Clearly supports OP’s claims that “Craft Beer” originated in America (and the UK). But the entire thread is dedicated to shitting on OOP and Americans. It’s just tiring to constantly see how dedicated Reddit is to negativity, even when it means rallying behind wrong information.

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u/ForestySnail 27d ago

Was beer not "craft" already in Europe? Or is that only a German thing?