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u/BenchFlakyghdgd 14d ago
Rudy should know as a lawyer that this isn't how things operate. What a moron.
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u/Accomplished-Mix-745 14d ago
You think a lawyer would do that? Just lie on the internet?
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u/Glittering-Pause-328 14d ago
It's no more unbelievable than "America's mayor" publicly taunting the authorities who are actively looking for him...
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u/itssarahw 14d ago
I know shit all about the law but am fascinated by the loopholes people can āfindā. Thereās no legit way an indictment expires is there?
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u/aqwmasterofDOOM 14d ago
Not really, if he refuses to show up for court he'll just be charged with other things since avoiding court is super illegal, at least as far as I'm aware (Trump tried to do it but they forced him to cone to court)
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u/ElkHistorical9106 14d ago
Revoke bail and issue an arrest/extradition order.
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u/earfix2 14d ago
Yeah he's out on the bail in Georgia right? Couldn't they just revoke that since he is obviously trying to avoid other indictments?
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u/ElkHistorical9106 14d ago
It would be for the trial he isnāt showing up at that heād be in trouble with. So if he doesnāt show up for trial in Georgia, heād be wanted in Georgia and theyād haul his treasonous ass back to court.
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u/Sharikacat 13d ago
He'd have to break some condition of his release for bail to be revoked, and dodging a subpoena wouldn't trigger that. His bail conditions are probably no more strict than "don't commit more crimes, and show up to court."
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u/QuirkyBus3511 14d ago
No, in fact statutes of limitations are limitations on charging someone not convicting them. If someone was charged and runs away for 10 years , they don't get off scot-free.
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u/weirdoldhobo1978 14d ago
The idea of ducking the process server as a legitimate legal strategy was shot down by precedent like 70 years ago. In most jurisdictions if there is sufficient evidence that you are deliberately avoiding being served papers they can be served by mail or other indirect means, or the court can rule that service is no longer necessary since you are already aware of the legal action against you and the case can proceed.
Bragging about it on Twitter would qualify as sufficient evidence in most courts.
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u/DuckterDoom 14d ago
But shouldn't the law be some giant game of tag? You last long enough you get out of jail free.
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u/Possible_Giraffe_835 13d ago
It is, you just have to escape long enough to get into a coffin instead of jail.
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u/xeno0153 14d ago
In MAGA world, you can just declare something and it automatically becomes true.
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u/GuyKopski 14d ago
He probably does know, he just also knows conservatives won't fact check him and will take any claim that he is being treated unfairly at face value.
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u/ephemeralspecifics 14d ago
He's not a real lawyer.
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u/Beermedear 14d ago
Weāve devolved to the point where a large portion of the country just believes whatās on their feed. Guaranteed there are people who now believe if they evade a subpoena their charges will be dropped.
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u/AncientScratch1670 14d ago
Dude literally got served. What a time to be alive.
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u/Connect_Beginning174 14d ago
āMaga is the wwe of politics.ā
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u/11masseffect 14d ago
Macho Man Marjorie Taylor Greene
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u/Guy_With_Ass_Burgers 14d ago
Thereās a theory making the rounds that Dog the Bounty Hunter and MTG are the same person.
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u/KnockoutCarousal 14d ago
Some of the greatest kayfabe of all time.
Conservatives: āItās sill real to me, damnit!ā
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u/Edmundthebastard 14d ago
āWhatās this??? Itās Arizona, coming into the ring with a subpoena!ā
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u/beerbellybegone 14d ago
As someone who doesn't live in the US, your politics are like a hyper-realistic but really bad TV show
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u/thekingof69ers 14d ago
Yeah itās ridiculous tbh
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u/Timisanoob 14d ago
If the characters had the ability to launch a nuclear war, it would be similar to stalled development.
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u/nabiku 14d ago
Our politics weren't like this at all until we elected a has-been reality show clown as president. He brought his whole clown posse and now we have to deal with this garage.
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u/pineappLxprS 14d ago
Interesting, as I hadnāt thought about it as a garage previously.
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u/BigCockCandyMountain 14d ago
"Well laaa dee da Mr Frenchman.
Garage"
"Well, what do you call it?"
"I call it a car hole."
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u/Regular-Self-6016 14d ago
Nah..it's been steadily devolving since Lee Atwater. Newt Gingrich further exacerbated the situation while people like Grover Norquist advocated for any warm body that could hold a pen. Viola! Trump. ( I realize this is overly simplistic).
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u/Elegant_Train8328 14d ago
You dont even know your own countries political history...
"The bitterness and rivalries seen in the partisan 1796 campaign got worse in the 1800 rematch between Adams and Jefferson. At one point in that race, Jeffersonās supporter, notorious pamphleteer James Calendar, claimed that Adams was a hermaphrodite, while Adamsā people said Jefferson would openly promote prostitution, incest, and adultery. That 1800 race ended in a tie fueled by deeply partisan tactics and more plotting by Adams, Hamilton, Jefferson, and Burr."
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u/badusername3323 14d ago
Yeah that is not the same as whatās going on now. This involves the general public much more than any of those elections ever did.
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u/MeshNets 14d ago
They at least knew how to deal with traitors and people stealing national secrets
It is out of a sitcom how much Cannon is slowing down the clear case of illegal document retention, and covering it up, and lying about it, multiple times
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u/Elegant_Train8328 14d ago
Typical American comment. Trying to deflect and ignore the point.
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u/MeshNets 14d ago
The difference is that most of that was direct insults and name-calling
Which is quite different from building a cult following who will donate as much money as the leader wants, will forgive anything the leader does, and will threaten any perceived enemies. It wasn't being done on Twitter with an audience of millions. And most of it was likely greatly exaggerated by the newsmen
Coup attempts were never common, it was more likely that the Brits would attack than a faction of citizens
Also you're referencing the 1700s?? Dude please tell me how that is related to current American society or culture. Your point was a poor comparison and poorly made
We don't have the same "royal" family and their friends leading the whole government, or government and its goals and interests do change, as much as the corporate donors allow, anyway
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u/Extension-Oil8247 14d ago
It's been phony all along, all of it. Actors. We have never heard of anyone in actual control. What we know about is a scripted distraction.
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u/SpecialistGrouchy341 14d ago
Funny.. he got elected because both parties failed miserably to bring a better candidate to the table. And itās not getting any better.
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u/Suspici0us_Sn0wman 14d ago
One of the main reasons people started supporting him was because he didn't have a career in politics. They thought the nepo baby with multiple failed business ventures could relate to the average citizen more than politicians. So while I agree that we should've had better candidates, I don't think conservatives cared about better candidates because they wanted someone with little to no experience in politics to be president.
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u/oxhasbeengreat 14d ago
To be fair my parents have LITERALLY been holding up Trump as the ideal president who should be running the country since at least the late 80s. I'm not at all surprised that they won't admit he's a problem or a mistake because to do so would be to admit that they've been WRONG about something for nearly 40 years. Trump has been "their guy" and him being president has been a core part of their personality since long before he actually ran. It's..... it's really disturbing actually.
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u/Fawt_4 14d ago
2016 should have been the year of party-bucking candidates. But the DNC shut Bernie down, so we got covered in orange slime. Oh what could have been.
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u/redshirt4life 14d ago
Hillary was the most qualified candidate put up for election in decades. Her life story is just amazing. You were just lied to.
Now that the dust settled you can look up her life story without all the "She's a nasty woman" bullshit. How she was a lawyer for troubled children, fought for universal healthcare, and championed the CHIP program. "Woman's rights are human rights."
Nowadays, no one good will run because being president is no longer something prestigious or respected. It's a shit job that ruins your life.
That's why Biden is perfect. He can do the job, get shit on for it, and die.
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u/autodidacted 14d ago edited 14d ago
These MAGA Republicans hacked the game. They discovered that ā if you can ignore any feeling of shame - there is a small but potent population you can continue to grift off of over and over and over again.
Congressman Matt Gaetz said it best, āIf youāre not making news then youāre not governing.ā
Until we change the incentives, itās going to continue to grow, and affect politics outside of the US as well.
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u/Iamtheconspiracy 14d ago
As a European, the greatest trick your politicians pulled is polarizing you and making you believe the other side is to blame. Both sides are destroying your country in different ways, while giving you the illusion of 'democracy' šš¦
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u/autodidacted 14d ago
Ahh, āboth sidesā, the ever repeated, go-to justificationā¦ ever notice only one side is saying āboth sidesā?
No, Iām pretty sure the guy who held a knife to the throat of America is to blame. Iām pretty sure the politicians, leaders, and judges who continue to lie for him are to blame.
No politician had to tell me that. Iāve watched it unfold in real time.
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u/profound_whatever 14d ago
As someone who does live in the US, it's exactly like that, but more frighteningly immersive.
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u/FunctionDissolution 14d ago
It's like arrested development if the characters were capable of starting a nuclear war.
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u/Cthaza 14d ago
Dude the things that happened recently between MTG and crocket was literally Jersey shore they were making fun of each other's eyelashes I don't remember the exact quote but the response was her asking the judge if talking about her bleach blonde butch build body would be allowed too
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u/VentingID10t 14d ago
Education budgets were cut long ago, amongst many other changes. All of this has now created many ignorant American voting adults with no critical thinking skills. Money and material possessions are worshipped here instead of appreciating wisdom and true leadership skills.
Trust me! About 25% of us here know history and can see the BLATENT signs that our country is in a major nose-dive. We see the parallels of the rise of Hitler and the fall of Rome. We know the statistics of the rich getting richer over the past 50 years. We know our founding fathers were not gods and a constitution written centuries ago should not be maintained as some sort of sacred document never to be challenged or changed. We know all of what you're thinking!!
Overall - we hate our "dog and pony show" manipulated pathetic media, the lengthy elections, gerrymandering, and bought government officials. We're trying our best, but we're losing this race against the ignorance and easily manipulated who vote for these morons. And I'm not just talking about Trump.
Personally, I'm embarrassed and sad. The land is so beautiful and there's so much potential to be an amazing country.
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u/rainking56 14d ago
Sorry about it. We are very politically divided so that way the greedy ones easily rise to the top without any questions.
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u/Tripple_T 14d ago
A reminder that "lawyers" in politics are rarely real lawyers.
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u/t_scribblemonger 14d ago
Didnāt he prosecute like, huge cases in NY? I think he used to be a serious lawyer, now just a creep and a tool.
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u/sockmop 14d ago
Literally the mob. Turns out new working for the Russian mob instead
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u/Grandpa-Palpatine 14d ago
And for purdue pharma during the oxycontin epidemic. He's an actual piece of shit as are all of the Sacklers.
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u/JuggleMyBawls 14d ago
He looks like one plate of fettuccine Alfredo away from the grave.
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u/Most_Figure533 14d ago
Enough of these ghastly old perverts now please. Force them to face the consequences of their actions and then eradicate all memory of them. Every action has a reaction action, that is how the universe works. these idiots seem to think that the universal law doesnāt apply to them.
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u/YungJod 14d ago
No we need these people as examples so to erase them from memory opens the possibility for just a repeat of the cycle
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u/thomport 14d ago
So he admits theyāre looking for, and he knows. Does this constitute that heās a fugitive on the run? If so, what are the ramifications?
Or is that just for other people who are considered criminals; not Americaās rich people.
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u/TeaTimeSubcommittee 14d ago
I wonder if this tweet would have been considered as enough evidence he didnāt need to be served since he was already aware that he was being required in court.
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u/SpecterGT260 14d ago
I still don't understand the basic premise of this tweet. It's not like you can dodge criminal charges just because you haven't been served
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u/Fantastic-Sandwich80 14d ago
Somehow, I don't think Rudy would support his opponents hiding to avoid criminal charges and would demand they be punished for even trying to circumvent the justice system.
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u/tulsamommo 14d ago
I just feel it is all professional wrestling at this point. Nothing feels real.
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u/donkeybrisket 14d ago
The system IS rigged in favor of the wealthy and powerful in America, but it's good to see that law and order still ostensibly prevails, at least until the SC weighs in on Drumpf
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u/Plastic-Caramel3714 14d ago
Why do so many conservative women look like this? Someone on another thread said Kristi Noem looks like sheās wearing a mask made of someone elseās face and itās probably the most apt description of their disturbingly artificial look.
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u/Various-Ducks 14d ago
Hide and seek master. If only he hadn't live streamed his location. So close.
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u/Cazzocavallo 14d ago
Hopefully he gets a charge added to his indictment for trying to avoid getting served, since this is basically admitting that he was fleeing the indictment.
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u/ScaleEnvironmental27 14d ago
Oof. That's aged liked milk in the sun. I'll never stop laughing about this.
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u/RXDriv3r 14d ago
Lol @ his tweet....since when do indictments have a time limit? Im not too sure about the law but once they send out an indictment, theres no time limit to serve someone before it magically expires and they're free from all charges.
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u/Feisty_Factor_2694 14d ago
Which one of them screamed and which one of them cried when he got served?
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u/Gogs85 14d ago
Who would have thought to look for him at his own birthday party?
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u/EnglishRose71 14d ago
I would be so embarrassed if I were one of the people in the photo with him. Talk about poor taste. Congratulations, Arizona Attorney General's Office.
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u/minahmyu 13d ago
You know how in anime they reveal the whole plan before its finally executed because they're for sure getting away because they're that smart?
Yeah, he thought that...
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u/JaxoDD9 14d ago
No matter what happens at the top the vast majority of American will still have to go to work tomorrow and our lives will still move forward. Fuck these elected people. Just love your life as you wish and donāt harm or threaten anyone and there will be plenty of people there to support you. Americans are great but the people running them are horseshit.
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u/martxel93 14d ago
Iām sorry but if Americans were so great Trump wouldnāt be getting to be President.
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u/King_Fluffaluff 14d ago
The system that he was elected under is flawed. He did not win the popular vote and voting is more difficult than it should be.
Politicians have been making it more difficult for poorer people to vote, they've been gerrymandering, the electoral college gives lopsided individual voting power (Ex: 1 vote in Wyoming is 3x more powerful than a vote in California), and so much more. Donald Trump only won because of these flaws.
Just like every country we have our idiots. But don't generalize the entirety of Americans on those outspoken people.
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u/CalabreseAlsatian 14d ago
Being surrounded by those women is my idea of a very punishing level of hell
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u/TOPSIturvy 14d ago
I have no idea what the heck this is talking about, all I know is I'm sure that wanting to see 4 fingers take the place of his front teeth is the appropriate response.
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u/allkindsofboring 14d ago
What's likely gonna happen is, it's gonna be pushed to secret grand jury in heavily Republican Arizona, where he's banking on them just letting him off. Because there's no way they're gonna throw a failure to appear warrant on someone who's rich and high profile and taunted the court
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u/DesignHead9206 14d ago
I so much wanted to see this man destroyed. I hoped that if Trump was untouchable at least he had to fall big time.
It's disgusting how these people always escape justice.
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u/Icy_Thing3361 14d ago
I had a lot of respect for him as he cleaned up New York City, and his 9/11 actions. He didn't do much, but if Rudy was fine, then there was hope. But now? I don't know what he's become. Let's say that any respect he had has gone away since. Shameful. After all of that dealing with Trump building in NYC with concerte from the mob in the 70s and 80s, then he sides with him? Now I wonder what did he clean up exactly?
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u/Thistlefizz 14d ago
He gets a lot more credit for cleaning up New York than he deserves. Crime rates were already declining under Dinkins and thereās very little evidence his ābroken windowsā policy did anything other than make wealthy New Yorkers feel better. (Thereās also the removal of lead from gasoline that is linked to an overall 56% reduction in crime nationwide.)
He also only gets credit for his post 9/11 actions because he was there. There was nothing particularly special about what he said or did. And had he not been mayor on 9/11, it wouldnāt feel quite so shocking to people how far heās fallen now.
He was an authoritarian then with fascist tendenciesāitās just more open now. If you recall, he even proposed delaying the NYC mayoral elections post 9/11. Heās always been a shitheel.
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u/SnooCrickets2961 14d ago
They found him at his birthday party. Iām sure he was flabbergasted they found him.
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u/Admirable_Tell_8577 14d ago
Ole leaky boy was already caught in Borat being a cringe old fucker
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u/PineappleTaFruitDude 14d ago
Except every hedgefund and market maker ever, every celebrity from Jeffreys list, every president, and that guy in texas who just drove into ppl for the fun of it
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u/Significant_Loan_596 14d ago
Somewhat of a heroic figure during 911 turned into a complete lunatic ass clown š¤”
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u/Bright_Cod_376 14d ago
Most the people in the image can't even figure out where the camera is and are just smiling at themselves being on the phone screen
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u/Three_Twenty-Three 14d ago
Tell us more about how "They must dismiss the indictment" if he can hide from them long enough. Is this one of those offenses that has a statute of limitations where if you can outlast it, you really can get off? And Arizona was really a day away from that lapsing?
Or is this more like the logic of everyone on Cops who thinks playground rules apply and that if they can outrun the chase and touch their home door, they can yell "Free!" and that's how the law works?
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u/Bigbeardhotpeppers 14d ago
I don't understand what he means by they have to dismiss the indictment if they can't find him.
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u/ifunnywasaninsidejob 14d ago
If I win this game of hide and seek you have to change the ruling to not guilty and charge my opponent with another crime? Fucking what
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u/Accomplished-Snow213 14d ago
The people with him are actually worse. Everyone should know what a POS hair drool is by now.
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u/MacVanRainin 14d ago
The cocky ass smirk on his 80 year old dipshit face. Like he did one over on the law. He needs to see a jail cell.
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u/Rolandscythe 14d ago
'If they can't find me they must dismiss the indictment'
...yeah I'm sure a lot of convicts wish it worked that way, buddy...
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u/Gawdsauce 14d ago
Why do all the ladies in that pic look like they had awful plastic surgery and lip filler?
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u/Nervous-Syllabub4966 14d ago
I actually wonder if he was lit or high when he posted this, like what you were thinking š
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u/Taolan13 14d ago
giuliana has been riding the rep he got for how well he handled the 9/11 aftermath for twenty years, but anybody with functioning brain cells can see the man's true colors especially this past decade.
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u/ashyslashy24 14d ago
The smile of a man who looks like he paid for sex