There are breweries in Europe with a history several times longer than that of the US.
The brewery for Spaten, for example, has a lineage first mentioned in 1397. Meanwhile, Stella Artois is the product of a brewery that first opened as a tavern in 1366 and was then purchased and renamed to the Brouwerij Artois in 1717 by its new owner Sebastien Artois.
These breweries have been around since the literal Middle Ages. Meanwhile, America’s oldest operating brewery is D.G. Yuengling and Son established in 1829 (No shade to it. It’s a good beer).
Edit: Because I’ve gotten a lot of comments about it and I can’t keep up with everyone I wanted to quickly clarify my stance. No, I do not think that the modern Spaten and Stella breweries are craft. They are, without doubt, modern “macro” breweries. By my definition, “craft” indicates brewing smaller scale, personal, batches with a focus on quality over quantity. With this in mind, I am of the opinion that those breweries were “craft” when they started out as they independently brewed quality stuff on a smaller scale. However, they were not called that at the time because the term would have been meaningless. In the Middle Ages (or before) everyone was crafting beer on that same scale and the concept of “macro” was nonexistent. So yes, the breweries I listed are not “craft” as we see the term. However, they were “craft” before the term ever needed to come into being.
There is a brewery here in Bavaria that has been in continuous operation since 1040 AD. In fact, it is the oldest continuous operation brewery in the world.
If it has enthusiasts, it has a tournament, no exceptions. They will be hard to find unless you fall down the rabbit hole for some niche things, but I've seen some pretty crazy championships. Customer support has championships. You sign your company up and at some points during the year testers will call in and act like a customer and score you. I once walked past a building that was hosting a typewriting championship.
Oh I get it, you're one of those "Taisto Miettinen is getting old"-doomsayers. We've heard all of that for years and yet he never lets Finland down. Bring your Estonian wives so they can see how a real man carries!
Look, there’s no denying the man’s impressive. Massive respect to him for all he’s done. But there’s no denying he had to switch wives just to get back on the winning streak. lol
At the rate I’m going I’ll be as old as Taisto before I even get married. Lmao. Maybe I can ask a female friend to volunteer as a partner. Now all I need to figure out is if there are tryout held on American soil.
The Excel scene has sadly been dominated by the chinese market since the 16.22 patch that added localization. Makro called it back in the day, and it has panned out exactly as he predicted. Every western player in the pro excel scene now has to learn eastern macros to stay competitive...
They still do some Ocho events during off hours on ESPN 2. They only do an hour of different things so you don't see the whole thing, but I watched some Excel, Cornhole, and Kickball.
Customer support has championships. You sign your company up and at some points during the year testers will call in and act like a customer and score you.
That sounds like it's less about "enthusiasts", and more about corporations testing employees under the guise of "competition."
Yeah, I see what you mean. The company where I worked that participated was really chill about it and there was a bit of a celebration when we were suddenly told that we had been participating all along, but I do agree it's not much of a competition when you don't even know you're competing.
You just have to look at the japanese (I think) who every year have several teams trying to "ride" freaking logs the size of a tree down a hill. Or the yearly cheese chase down a hill (the cheese get a one second headstart). And yes. There are injuries every year.
Yeah, I came here to say this. I had some friends go to the brewery on their honeymoon and I guess they’ve already began working on their 1000 year anniversary celebration.
Imagine that. You've been pursuing the art of the perfect beer for centuries, to the point that you've won several worldwide awards and are preparing for your thousand year anniversary. Your brewery is older than most COUNTRIES. Entire empires have risen and fallen during the lifetime of your brewery. Your brewery is so old that it is possible people on the First Crusade brought your beer with them to the Holy Land.
And then some bloviating rascal probably not even old enough to drink yet in his home country, a crime infested ostensibly developed country with outsized importance due to the willingness of leadership to sacrifice its youth to fight wars in areas they can't even mark on a map, tries to claim that their pale imitation craft beer is better than yours and calls your beer weak.
It is rather funny when you think about it. Though, I will say, America does have some excellent modern breweries as well. I frankly don’t understand why people fight about it. We should all be friends and enjoy each other’s beer together. That’s the spirit of beer if you ask me.
A long time ago way back in history
When all there was to drink, was nothing but cups of tea.
Along came a man by the name of Charlie Mopps,
And he invented a wonderful drink and he made it out of hops.
Hey!
He must have been an admiral, a sultan, or a king.
And to his praises we shall always sing.
Look at what he's done for us, he's filled us up with cheer.
Lord Bless Charlies Mopps the man who invented
Beer, Beer, Beer, tiddly beer, beer, beer
Like many other highly technical hobbies, beer making was rapidly accelerated with the advent of sharing information easily and rapidly around the world. When you suddenly have thousands and thousands of people trying at home with generations of knowledge at their finger tips and cross collaborations on successes and failures, you're going to get some great results bubbling to the top that wouldn't have happened otherwise. And it just so happened to be a massively popular hobby in America. Many of the people that excelled in their hobby started their own businesses.
Bud…Europe is so bloodthirsty and quick to kill entire generations the United States had to take their shit away and not allow many of them to have armies and forced them all into a coalition. This is, again, because Europe had 0 chill and started two world wars, with one of them being an attempt to eradicate a whole group of people.
These two world wars were also on the tail of an entire century of small wars that took place all over the world as, again, Europeans traveled around the world to kill each other in new and exotic lands as they also killed all the locals.
This century of worldwide colonial competition and killing was preceded by a man from France who attempted to take over all of Europe and almost succeeded. Interestingly, he came to power because the people supporting him rounded up all of the people with any kind of connection to the previous government and cut their heads off.
When it comes to shit talking the United States and its importance in the world maybe take a minute of introspection and realize the United States inherited a shit show from a collection of European countries that didn’t understand the world and fucked it up by drawing lines everywhere and murdering the locals that didn’t agree.
Seems like the Europeans in this sub don’t know history very well lol. Talking about us starting wars when in reality we spent decades finishing the ones they started…
world beer cup is a scam. all the shittiest beer you can buy in the swedish state alcohol monopoly store will have a big fat "WINNER OF WORLD BEER CUP [x year]".
99% sure you just pay to get a prize or some shit and it exists just for marketing.
It’s distributed by a company in one of the Carolinas. I found it at my local Giant Eagle (grocery store chain in Ohio) a few times over the last month or two.
World Beer cup is the largest international beer competition and is announced during the Craft Brewers Conference which rotates its location each year. (next year is in Indianapolis) Great American Beer Festival and is the largest US-only competition and takes place in Boulder Colorado every year. This one is super fun as it has a public sampling floor while CBC is mostly for industry people.
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u/Blackbox7719 27d ago edited 27d ago
There are breweries in Europe with a history several times longer than that of the US.
The brewery for Spaten, for example, has a lineage first mentioned in 1397. Meanwhile, Stella Artois is the product of a brewery that first opened as a tavern in 1366 and was then purchased and renamed to the Brouwerij Artois in 1717 by its new owner Sebastien Artois.
These breweries have been around since the literal Middle Ages. Meanwhile, America’s oldest operating brewery is D.G. Yuengling and Son established in 1829 (No shade to it. It’s a good beer).
Edit: Because I’ve gotten a lot of comments about it and I can’t keep up with everyone I wanted to quickly clarify my stance. No, I do not think that the modern Spaten and Stella breweries are craft. They are, without doubt, modern “macro” breweries. By my definition, “craft” indicates brewing smaller scale, personal, batches with a focus on quality over quantity. With this in mind, I am of the opinion that those breweries were “craft” when they started out as they independently brewed quality stuff on a smaller scale. However, they were not called that at the time because the term would have been meaningless. In the Middle Ages (or before) everyone was crafting beer on that same scale and the concept of “macro” was nonexistent. So yes, the breweries I listed are not “craft” as we see the term. However, they were “craft” before the term ever needed to come into being.