r/clevercomebacks 27d ago

That's some seriously old beer!

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u/Roberto87x 27d ago

Wow, that’s nuts. I hope they’re planning one hell of an event for their 1000 year anniversary in 16 years!

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u/js1893 27d ago

“1000 year anniversary” is absolutely bonkers.

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u/Ok_Wear_1725 27d ago edited 27d ago

Is it?

Yeah, I still fondly remember taking part in the 1200-year anniversary of my hometown in my youth, but it hasn't been *that* special.

I mean, most of the surrounding towns are older.
New-World-perspective is really strange from a European standpoint. Thinking of 200-year-old stuff as "old"...

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u/js1893 27d ago

Well specifically for a business too. There really aren’t that many in the world that go back several centuries and beyond.

But yea my city just celebrated its 178th birthday since incorporating. That’s on the older side for anything not on the east coast really. It was just a trading outpost in 1800

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u/dicksilhouette 27d ago

This is the point I was looking for. It’s hard for nations to continue functioning for that long. For a business to go through changes of empires and governments etc etc and continue operating for that long is crazy. Multiple world wars broke out and the brewery just kept kicking. Old world or new that should be impressive. This guy just wanted to sound cool cuz his country’s old US is young so bad he was willing to diminish the accomplishment

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u/Grilnid 27d ago

Maybe yeah, but "a bunch" is still "not that many" so point still stands

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u/C_beside_the_seaside 27d ago

The ones that do, regular people don't tend to interact with as much as banking etc. Europe has plenty of established businesses - in Belgium you're going to find many breweries older than a few hundred years.

https://www.fastcompany.com/90464459/this-map-shows-which-companies-have-lasted-hundreds-and-even-thousands-of-years

It's perspective

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u/dicksilhouette 23d ago

It’s hard to see the graphic but the article lists one European company that’s over a millennium old. 1 on an old ass continent. Again it’s still super impressive that a business lasted 1,000 years even if you’re in Europe

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u/C_beside_the_seaside 23d ago

TBH if it's something necessary... Free markets are going to do their thing whatever borders are doing. Like... there will always be a market for bread/bakeries, there will usually be a market for alcohol & brewing.

The idea that people who have been bartering and payment in kind to swap stuff everyone wants are going to be impacted by politics shows a very modern perspective. Politics only really happened in most people's lives via a local feudal lord / landlord... like nobody really gives two many shits over who is king until it gets into the "no MY interpretation of the bible is right so I'm gonna kill you" high stakes, but you bet your ass both Catholics & Protestants will both happily drink beer in my experience... sure you can get the puritan ones but a lot of them fucked off a few hundred years ago so people wouldn't be able to tell them.... that their interpretation of the bible was right and they were gonna kill them limit their rights or whatever

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u/dicksilhouette 23d ago

I honestly have no idea what you’re on about but it seems so weird to want to be dismissive of the achievement of a business operating continuously for a millennium. Absolutely bonkers. Thats a major achievement. 6 in all of Europe based on the research I can find. 15 total, the remaining 9 of which are all Japanese. In all of the world 15 of these businesses exist and you and the other commentator just so dismissive of it

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u/C_beside_the_seaside 23d ago

I mean fuck I literally studied archaeology. If you can't understand what I wrote.... and actually interpreted the opposite... you're not having the same conversation I am. Of course I'm not dismissive. I am FROM somewhere with documented history back to before the birth of Jesus, I've literally collected my own Roman mosaic tiles from the Thames and was on a dig with a 6000 year old hand axe polishing station.

I LOVE HISTORY AND BUSINESSES SURVIVE DESPITE BORDERS AND THAT IS MORE USEFUL TO EXAMINE THAN THE WRITTEN RECORDS OF A GOVERNMENT

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u/C_beside_the_seaside 23d ago

Fucking Hadrian's Markets is the best fucking museum Jesus Christ I can't believe you thought I was dissing those businesses. I celebrate them.

I AM SAYING THEY LITERALLY TRANSCEND POLITICS AND STATES